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I have been using my time off riding my mountain bike, however I've been getting bored with the local trails close to home. Trails too close to town means too many people, too many people lead to too many dogs, and too many people with too many dogs leads to too many dog shits. Not pleasant.
So one must travel further away from town to enjoy the fresh air and tranquility. This means loading the bike onto the car and driving for a half hour or more to get to the good trails. So not only for the fun of it, but to save money and gas, Polar Bear and I load up one car and drive to the trails. This can be better for the environment, but putting both of us together in a confined space for more than a half hour has a tendency to lead to some pretty harebrained discussions and ideas.
Many of our discussions usually start off "What if.......?" or "I've been thinking....." then before long we find ourselves asking each other "How could we........?"
I believe one of our most recent conversations lead to the very question "What if we could carry our mountain bikes on our motorcycles!?!" We could ride our motorcycles to the trails, ride our mountain bikes all day, then ride our motorcycles home!!!
Wow! To think if so much can be accomplished with one mind, can you imagine the endless possibilities when we put our two heads together? Ummmmmmm yeah, that's a rhetorical question, don't answer that.
Andy managed to get his fat bike mounted first and pulled up to the range one morning just as I was finishing up the last exercise of the day. My teaching partner says to me "Hey look! That guy has a bike on the back of his motorcycle!"
Ha, I didn't even have to look, I knew who "that guy" was and during my break I went over to take a look see. He had the bike mounted on a conventional trunk mounted bike rack, then strapped to his top box, perpendicular to his motorcycle. Pretty cool set up, but it was also pretty wide, so I started thinking out loud of other ways to mounting it.
Wait! Squirrel!!! I had to get back to class!
|Photo blatantly stolen from Polar Bear|
The other instructor with me that day started asking me questions about what we were doing and why. The "what" part of his question was easy to answer, I couldn't explain "why", although I think he knew. He thought it was cool and told me that he used to work in a bicycle shop so he had extra bike mounts kicking around his garage that I could use for my project. Uh oh, not that I need further encouragement, but by not having any parts readily available to me at least I was able to procrastinate. Not anymore.
I picked up the parts that night and started mocking something up. My thought was to mount the bicycle on the rear rack, parallel or inline with my motorcycle. Using a fork mount and rail I was able to get the bike up there but it needed a much more solid base mount.
I got into the project and was anxious to go for a ride, but not in the 100º heat, I had to wait for the temperature to drop that evening. I got everything bolted and strapped down then went for a ride around the block.
I think this is where fear turned to common sense telling me not to do this, but you know what? "Never let fear and common sense stand in your way" and off I went down the road for a shake down ride.
Shake down was exactly that, shaking my bike, shaking my handlebars and shaking my arms. It wasn't too bad at speed, but coming and going from a stop was disconcerting to say the least. I pulled into a deserted parking lot to attempt some professional maneuvers.
"Kids, do not try this at home. I am a professional rider on a closed course."
No, no, no. No way. Nope. Not going to happen. Forget an offset cone weave, I had a hard time completing a straight line cone weave. A swerve at any speed was sloppy at best, and a quick stop was too risky to even try. Forget it, how would I explain a crash like this to my insurance company?
I needed gas in my bike so I wobbled down to the gas station to fill up. I can say that people do see me, I had people gawking, smiling, waving and taking photos of this crazy idiot carrying a mountain bike on his motorcycle.
I topped up my tank and went to head for home. I thumbed the starter button... rrrruurrr, rrruuurrr, rruur.... dead battery! Well... on an up note, technically, I wasn't stranded... I had my bicycle with me.
I pushed the Tiger out of the way and sat for a minute to consider my options. I could ride my bicycle home in 95º heat, or I could call my ever supporting wife to come get me in the car or to boost me. Hmmm, but the battery is under the seat, which is under the bicycle mount, which is bolted to the rack, and my tool kit to undo the bolts is next to the battery, which too is under the bicycle mount, which is bolted to the rack... (along with my motorcycle registration, not that I would get pulled over. A guy with a bicycle on his motorcycle would never attract the attention of the local law enforcement). I didn't, but I guess I should have brought some wrenches with me.
I'll bet, due to the heat that my radiator fan was on and if I wait 10 to 15 minutes, the bike should cool down enough to start. Photo op while we cool down.
"C'mon Lucy, don't let me down! Good girl! Let's go home!"
I plugged her in for the night and gathered up my gear for another weekend of teaching. One stipulation for using the bike rack parts was that I had to show my fellow instructor the completed project. We just happened to be teaching together so Saturday morning I was off to the range, bicycle and all. He loved it and thought it was so cool, but I had to tell him it was not meant to be and that it was just too unstable to keep. He immediately went into devising another way to mount it, "what if you dropped the rear wheel lower?" and "what about mounting it off the passenger peg?"
Isn't funny how friends encourage you to do stupid things?
Perhaps imagination is only intelligence having fun. ~George Scialabra
You know this would be simple with a Ural...ReplyDelete
I just tied the bike to the rear rack or you could go deluxe like ChrisL did and install a trailer hitch receiver for a multi-bike rack.
The simple answer is a Ural, fitting one in the garage however is not so simple. I have considered pulling a single track trailer.... wait a minute, you're one of them. ;)Delete
I don't know ... sounded like a good idea at the time 😃ReplyDelete
Works in theory, right?!?Delete
Great stuff Brad!ReplyDelete
With TRUE friends, I find that they lead you into doing stupid stuff, then laugh at your sorry arse when it all turns to custard (goes horribly wrong in US lingo!)
Thanks Geoff. Yeah, true friends are always there for you, aren't they?Delete
There is someone on ADVrider in Anchorage who carries her mountain bike around on the back of her DR. I the key is a really solid mount to the frame. Any flexibility or movement is bad.ReplyDelete
You're right, I think I'm getting some gyroscopic wobble or some sort of movement back there that I'm not seeing. I'm considering removing the pillion seat and mounting to the sub frame. Although I'm also considering using the Subaru as my mountain bike hauler.Delete
I've seen the same concept mounted on a GS, but unknown as to performance. I think RichardM is right, sidecar rig. I've a friend who mounted his mountain bike to the sidecar wheel fender and welded a front mounting point forward of the passenger step. again, no performance feedback but I think it worked for him.ReplyDelete
I think you and Richard are on to something with the Ural, but I think I may try the passenger peg mounting point first.Delete
Mate that is some funny shit.....ReplyDelete
Thanks, I don't know how I get myself into trouble like this.Delete
Troubadour, I've seen only one other motorcyclist who, um, boldly went where you went: It was a few years back and I was riding through Park City and there was this F800GS like mine with a bike rail bolted to the lid of the top case--yes, not to the rack, but to the lid of the top case--and there was the rider's mountain bike strapped on like some abstract sail or mutant dorsal fin. I know that there's not a ton of resistance to the broad side of a bicycle, but I still can help but wonder how such an arrangement would handle in a nasty crosswind.ReplyDelete
I grew up with an older brother who was always the instigator of doing stupid things, which worked just fine for me: I'd gladly participate, but would seldom get any of the blame--you know, because my big brother was supposed to be the "good example". Yeah, right--he just didn't have it in him. :)
I was afraid this mount was too high but it fit through the garage door so clearance wasn't an issue. I didn't notice too much wind drag or crosswind but I think the weight of the bike is too high which is causing a wobble.Delete
My parents were great and let me get into trouble all the time to figure things out for myself. However, I was slow to learn some things more than others..
In theory this sounds like a pretty cool idea... imagine German officials cringe at the sight of this rack.ReplyDelete
Fortunately, the only laws I'm concerned with are the laws of physics and gravity.Delete
I was watching a video with these guys on Fatbikes riding and came to a puddle... and one guy fails epically... gets up and says...ReplyDelete
All we need now is bleachers and beer....
I think I may have finally found my motto......
You realize all the stupid things we've done together, we've been sober? I can only imagine how creative we could get while consuming alcohol.Delete
That is why we have wives to remind us to make good decisions....Delete
More and more often I'm seeing my DS friends taking up MTBing. And they're really into it, too!ReplyDelete
Cool rack, though. Down here, surfboard racks on bikes are a common site.
It is nice to get off the highway and onto the trails, either on DS or MTBs; away from cellphone texting, latte sipping, distracted drivers swerving oversized, lumbering SUVs across four lanes of traffic to take us out.Delete
Another friend of ours is a surfer and has considered mounting a surfboard to his bikes/Ural, but he procrastinates more that I do, so I've yet to see him do it.
Troubadour, that is just Mad!ReplyDelete
When do you start marketing your new rack
Yes, yes I am. Thank you.Delete
There are companies marketing these already, they are expensive and I can only imagine the insurance that they have to carry.
Troubadour I think you need a Ural Buddy. As for the tight cones, I have the layout (evil grin) our 10/4 weave would get you all ticked up, I like the way Andy had his mounted, yup a little wide. my out thought would be to be very creative and design a fully functioning mountain bike that you could fold in half and then latch lock it into place, hmmmm a hybrid bike! so if you create it, please remember where the idea came from ;)ReplyDelete
I haven't dismantled the rack yet, or given up on the whole idea, so I am still pondering. I'll give you full credit for your half rack idea.Delete
Don't give up! That's a very cool idea. I'm sure it's unwieldy, but I'd bet a lower-profile side-mount would work. And using the passenger pegs is a great idea. You could mount the front wheel on one side and the rest of the bike on the other. There's nothing that makes one appreciate the aerodynamics of one's ride like adding unusual cargo, as I learned when I lugged a collapsed dog crate around one day. :-)ReplyDelete
I'm glad to see you are back.
That is freaking awesome! Let me know how version 2 goes.ReplyDelete
As for riding in Oregon? Scott Morris visited there recently and the trails he rode look pretty sweet. http://topofusion.com/diary/2015/07/01/a-trip-with-no-plan/